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[Knuckle]

Okay, I'm pretty sure everyone knows how Link learns the Song of Storms from himself in OOT through the windmill man. However, this method completely contradicts the flow of time mechanics in the game, since all the other time travel related quests (getting scarecrows song, planting magic beans, etc.) require that link does an action in the past before he completes it in the future. However, to learn the Song of Storms, Link has to complete an action in the future so that he can trigger the action in the past that allows him to learn the song.

Basically, I'm asking to hear your best theories on how this isn't a plot hole, since I'm completely stumped on how this works out. I should also mention that we are absolutely sure that Link originally taught the song to the windmill man, since the guy recognizes your ocarina in the future.

[Skippy]

No, it's a plot hole, but one that is usually overlooked, as it gives you a vital clue as to how to get into the well as a child.

[Chase]

There's always the chance some other kid came in and played an ocarina to mess up his windmill.

Otherwise, this is pretty much unexplainable. Since Link always makes it back in time at exactly the moment he left, there's no way he wouldn't have a recollection of the Song of Storms.

[Ivo-goji]

Wow, someone remembered the Song of Storms Paradox.

The game obviously wants you to assume that Link taught the man at the windmill. It is pretty much a canon fact. However, it is one that conflicts with other canon facts. The only way to get around it is to ignore what is implied and conclude that someone else besides Link taught the man at the windmill the Song. To do that is to ignore canon- sometimes ignoring canon is necessary for the Zelda series to remain consistent.

[pheonix561]

WELL I GUESS ILL JUST IGNORE CANON WHERE I SEE FIT

I will start by ignoring every zelda game except for ancient stone tablets.

Ancient stone tablets was the only real zelda game.

Now then



Jesus Christ how many years has it been since there was a real zelda game in the series, whats with all this filler crap when is link putting his baseball cap back on and saving the day

[=Zoe=]

Ok, let's leave the religion a side for now...

I don't think that Link created the Song of Storms, I always believe that it was "destiniy" or "fate" or the Goddesses. I dunno, it just pops from nowhere, doesn't it?

[Knuckle]

I agree that Link could not have created the song, he just most likely rediscovered it. I think that Terminia's Flat created the song, and Link somehow learned the song through a paradox, despite knowledge of its existence never leaving Terminia.

[Disgea]

if you think about it does link really forget everything when he goes back to a kid or is it still there because he has a sub concious memory of the song which allows him to play the song as a kid