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Poll: Obama, or McCain? (49 member(s) have cast votes)

Obama or McCain?

  1. Obama (D) (29 votes [59.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 59.18%

  2. McCain (R) (20 votes [40.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.82%

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#41 Farron

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 08:13 AM

Does anyone know what "would" means?

Give me one serious answer.

Throughout history,the Muslims have always been determined.In less then 200 years,they were able to take over the entire Arabian Peninsula,the Persian Empire,etc.What makes you think that they would stop with 9/11?


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That just makes them want to attack us even more,doesn't it?

Edited by HylianForrunner, 10 August 2008 - 08:15 AM.


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Posted 10 August 2008 - 12:54 PM

You guys are fully aware that Tingle is voting democrat, right? Do you really want to vote with him?

But on a serious note, I wanna keep my guns! Obama wants to take em away! Im not a murderer, im a HUNTER. I kill deer. I eat deer. They taste very good. Obama wants to take away the guns so we are defenseless against any of the crap hes gonna pull on us. Anyone live in Michigan? Other than me? You know how bad it is under a socialist, right? Thats what Obama is! No jobs, high taxes, waiting 6 months for a MRI scan because you think you have cancer? Thats what this country will be like under Obama. He wont give tax breaks to oil companies, he thinks its wrong. Hes wrong! The average oil companies profits are taxed 70%-99%. Thats why our gas prices are so high! I should stop now, before I get in trouble.....

Edited by Doubleagent, 10 August 2008 - 01:01 PM.


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Posted 10 August 2008 - 01:01 PM

Yes, I know that it is holy for Muslims and Christians too. I just said the Jews because I was trying to explain why they have the right to be there. They didn't invade, in 1947 the land was divided between Israel and Pakistan with the holiest city for both of them as neutral land. Both of them had the same amount of land, but the Palistinians wanted all of the land back. The Israelites were happy to at least have some of their promised land after so many years. Then the Arab nations invaded them, and they defended themselves. They actually beat all of the nations surrounding them, but they didn't force the palistinians out completely, even after what they and the other Arab Nations did. They allowed them to stay in those two camps and are now working on setting up a new palistine for them. The camps that exist are danger zones because of the Palistinians that gather against the Israelies and throw rocks, moltov roostertails, and small explosives at them. The israelies don't use real bullets unless they feel that their life is really threatened.


In 1947 UN pushed the Palestinians out of their own country even though they had been living there for generations. I have no problem with understanding how that can cause riots. They are also being discriminated in a lot of other ways, the wall, house being destroyed, rockets against civilian targets and being denied to travel in certain parts of the country. The Israelies use rubber bullets in some occasions, but that doesn't justify poo. They bomb civilian targets, and constantly terrorize the people of the west bank and Gaza strip.

It is the holiest place in the world for Jews and the third holiest for Muslims (after madena and the great madrasa), and that's why they were both allowed to have part of the land.


This I am aware of.

Also, palistinians seem to enjoy throwing things and spitting off of the "wailing wall", the only remaining part of the second Jewish temple, and hitting the Jews that are praying below. Does that sound like a nation that is innocent and helpless?


First of all, no nation is innocent and helpless. You can't judge a whole nation like that. And that is why the situation is so complicated. The Israeli army has done horrible things, and so has certain Palestinian groups.

Palestinians don't enjoy doing stuff like that. They are a people that literary has been pushed to the edge, and that of course results in desperate actions like that.

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Yes, and the situation is complicated now, what I tried to say is that the war actually has helped Al Quaida grow. I doubt USA would have seen any more attacks after 9/11 if they hadn't attacked half of the middle-eastern countries.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 01:05 PM

You guys are fully aware that Tingle is voting democrat, right? Do you really want to vote with him?

But on a serious note, I wanna keep my guns! Obama wants to take em away! Im not a murderer, im a HUNTER. I kill deer. I eat deer. They taste very good. Obama wants to take away the guns so we are defenseless against any of the crap hes gonna pull on us. Anyone live in Michigan? Other than me? You know how bad it is under a socialist, right? Thats what Obama is! No jobs, high taxes, waiting 6 months for a MRI scan because you think you have cancer? Thats what this country will be like under Obama. He wont give tax breaks to oil companies, he thinks its wrong. Hes wrong! The average oil companies profits are taxed 70%-99%. Thats why our gas prices are so high! I should stop now, before I get in trouble.....


haha "You know how bad it is under a socialist, right? "

I myself live in a social democracy. The right wing call our government socialistic. Still, I know things is a hell of a lot better here than what they are over in the States.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 09:57 PM

If we pull out of Iraq, we start WWIII. Iraq collapses and breaks into three weak countries, they get taken over by countries with nukes, they all nuke Israel, everybody chooses sides, and the fighting gets worse.


How did Isreal get pulled into this?

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 10:10 PM

All the surrounding nations hate Israel. Al Quaida is in Afghanistan, but if they got into Iraq they would be close enough to other countries that share their hate for Israel to do something about it.

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 11:58 AM

...Yeah, but Norwegian people are gross.


great argument!

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 01:31 PM

It was an observation.

Back on topic.

McCain is pro.


Pro in what? He's just going to be another Bush. Please, for the sake of yourself and the rest of the world, don't let him win.

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 07:09 PM

Hey, Bush isnt taking away our guns, but Obama will. Im not gonna murder anyone, I kill deer, cuz I think they taste good.

Edited by Doubleagent, 11 August 2008 - 07:10 PM.


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Posted 11 August 2008 - 08:11 PM

Pro in what? He's just going to be another Bush. Please, for the sake of yourself and the rest of the world, don't let him win.

I don't hear anything about nuclear power coming from Obama's mouth.

Also,I hate Obama because of his immorality.What kind of a person is raised by his white mother and then when he's an adult attends a church insulting her race?She,unlike his father,raised him.I don't like the idea of having someone so disrespectful in our office.

People say "Obama is going to do better!" "Change!" "Change!" "Change!" "Mother effing Change!!"

My country has lost its mind.I heard someone say that Obama has more experience than Mc'Cain.What a load of crap.Obama has been in the senate for what...2 years?Not only has Mc'Cain been in there longer,but he also served in Vietnam and became a POW.Not only does he have political experience,but he also has war experience,which makes him ideal for leading the country and becoming Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.You would think that a soldier would feel good knowing that the man leading him has actually been a soldier himself.
Also,I have heard that Obama's stepfather has terrorist connections.Do we really want someone rumored to have terrorist connections leading us?
What is Obama going to change,exactly?The race of the president?Is he going to give blacks more rights when they already have the same amount,if not more rights than whites and mexicans and everyone else?Being the next Martin Luther King Jr. is one thing.Being prejudiced is another.Also,I hear that he will be raising taxes,just like EVERY democrat usually does.Where's the change?The race is where the change is.The racial tab is what's changing.

Obama's little "change" has come too late.It's been here for 50 years.In the last 50 years,the United States of America has seen drastic change.The level of our country's education has dropped from the higher levels to the lower levels.Respect for our elderly has wherever I look in this country's main crowd.People are insane in this country now.In New Orleans,when Katrina hit and the city was flooded,people were shooting at rescue helicopters.People were raping little girls in the football stadium during the hurricane.That's how terrible this country is now.All of this in 50 short years.It would be nice to see morality come back,wouldn't it?It would be nice to see respect come back,wouldn't it?It would be just great to see all of those great qualities and morals just magically appear in the main crowd of America,wouldn't it?Too bad it isn't going to happen.The way I see it,Obama is just a hammer striking down on a nail.He's just pushing it deeper and deeper into the wall.




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