Ivo-goji

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  2. Posted

    An organic clone could be considered the same as the original, as they would be genetically identical. But that is a "could be" not a "is". Maybe an version of Vio from an alternate dimension....

    Min said he was in Ivo's drama thread located in the rant/rave section.

    I see what you did there.

  3. Posted

    pheonix: I don't know, I'm asking you.

    Vio: I don't know, that is just what he has told me. An organic clone, possibly.

  4. Posted

    Ivo, I think this starts to answer the question in the religion thread as to why people don't consider LDS a Christian religion.

    Sorry.

    Perhaps there was a time when we were considered a Christain religion. Then I came along and everything went down hill....

    Don't feel sorry. Everybody's entitled to their opinions.

  6. Posted

    Arguably, whales have been called fish for some time. Some versions of the Bible also call it the Leviathan, a sea creature described in the Book of Job.

    Speaking of which, we should create a thread around pheonix's theory and try to get it acknowledged by scientists. I think he is on to somthing.

  8. Posted

    Let it be known that the following people are Vio Milanor:

    Vio Milanor

    Arcane (past counterpart)

    Silves (future counterpart)

    Min

    Ivo-goji (robotic duplicate)

    Dustin (apparently)

    Chuck Norris

    Possibly many others as well....

    Can any other people confirm or deny that they too are Vio?

  9. Posted

    I find it really annoying when people bring private matters, even messages, into the public. Just a pet-peeve.... Is there any kind of peeve other then a pet?

    Well, it seemed like a better idea than actually making such a topic. Perhaps now you two my resolver your differences (real or otherwise)?

  10. Posted

    "pheonix561's post condensed for purpose of space."

    Latter-day Saints believe that all humans are spirit children of heavenly parents, and they dwelt with them prior to birth on this earth (Heb. 12:9; cf. Jer. 1:5; Eph. 1:4). In that premortal life, or first estate, those spirit children could not progress fully. They needed a physical body in order to have a fulness of joy (D&C 93:33-34), and the spirits also needed to be placed in an environment where, by the exercise of agency, they could prove their willingness to keep God's commandments (Abr. 3:25). On the other hand, if they succumbed to temptation, they would be shut out from God's presence, for "no unclean thing can dwell with God" (1 Ne. 10:21; Eph. 5:5). To bring those who yielded to temptation back into God's presence, a plan of redemption had to be set in place, and this required a redeemer.

    A Council in Heaven was held of all the spirits, and two individuals volunteered to serve as the redeemer. One was Lucifer, a son of the morning (Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:26), who said he would "redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost," but they would have no choice in the matter. Their agency would be destroyed (Moses 4:1-3). Such a proposal was out of harmony with the plan of the Father, for the agency of mankind is an absolute prerequisite to progress. Jehovah, the premortal Jesus Christ, had first stepped forward and volunteered to give his life as payment for all sins. He set no plan or conditions of his own, but said, "Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever" (Moses 4:2). He was selected by the Father.

    That is my understanding of it.

  11. Posted

    It was in a private message. Except I'm stupid and wind up upsetting a bunch of people nearly every time I make a thread, so after some reflection I decided against carrying out those orders.

  12. Posted

    Listen. Saying God sucks is OK. Because he was kidding. I don't get why you think it's a big deal. That's like getting worked up over yo mamma jokes.

    I know... It's just hard when you see somthing that offends you repeated over and over again while people look and are pleased about it....

    Why does Min make more sense than anyone else here?O_o

    Yes, you can and may say what you like! Same rules apply to everyone else! INCLUDING SILVES! <Shocker>

    Then this will not sound very cheerful...

    You should make a rant thread concerning Phantasmagoric Hero being a god... Because he took my "YOU SUCK" seriously and won't forgive me unless yooooooou make a topic about him. >:c Remember the whole "MAKE A RANT THREAD IF SOMEONE THREATENS ME."

    But I think I've caused enough unrest as it is.

  13. Posted

    Hmmm, seems like you've never been outside of Utah. People are gonna insult your friends. A few may insult your family. A LOT will insult your God(s). Deal with it.

    I can say what I like, thank you.

  14. Posted

    Take solace in the fact that God knows you are standing up for him and loves you for it. But don't create a topic like this and expect everyone to agree with you.

    I do and I didn't. Everyone may believe what they wish to believe. I have done little beyond stating my own.-_-

  15. Posted

    Dude, your missing the point. Vio claimed to be a God. I knew he was just playing around. Silves said the being that I worship sucked. He wasn't serious. Vio was being silly and arrogant. That doesn't make me feel hurt. Silves said the being I considered my greatest friend and Father sucked. That hurts no matter how put it.

    Also, we're getting off topic.:\

    But yeah. This was a stupid question. Because you'll either get:

    a. God exists because he's God.

    or

    b. God doesn't exist.

    So...there's really no point to this except for arguments.

    That isn't true. I offered an answer in the very first post that doesn't match either of those.

    I ain't trying to convert anybody, PH. Calmeth down already.

  16. Posted

    Yea, Ivo. It's people like you that make Mormons seem weird. Either you are okay with God jokes or not. Make up your mind.

    Vio said he was God. Silves said God sucked. Neither of them was being serious. Only Silves' joke offended me. Vio wasn't making it the center piece of a post. Quite with the extremeism.

  18. Posted

    I've had lucid dreams every now and then. Sadly, what ever I do once realizing that I was dreaming I usually forget, so I don't know if I've controlled or interacted with any of my dreams before. Such dreams, however, seem to be in the third person (I can see myself, that is), where as other dreams are more from my own point of view.

  19. Posted

    That pit of despair lasts about 80 years, 99 tops. The Lord has offered us an eternity in paradise that we only spend those years acting as He would have us.

  20. Posted

    Prophets have spoken for God since the dawn of the religion. Moses, Elijah, Isaiah, Malachi, Alma, John, Peter, Joseph, Brigham, Monson, and all of them in-between. They write the scriptures, they speak God's words, what they say can and is canonized at truth.

  21. Posted

    If the sermon is canonized, yes, they are. But I was refering to how you were unfamiliar with the phrase- it is used quite often at General Confrences.

  22. Posted

    Sorry. :embarrassed:

    I've never heard this in my life.

    I am fairly sure that most faiths place God as being the deity that always was there, with no origin story of it present anywhere.

    The closest thing that comes to it is how some gods were born from god/god-human affairs and all that juicy stuff in Hellenistic religion.

    Sahaqiel

    Evidently, you haven't heard many LDS sermons. I'd suggest Youtube, but only if your curious.

    Another oft' repeated phrase- "Insure the milk is given before the meat." At this I have failed.

  23. Posted

    Y'see, God was just a normal man like most... He had the same interests as most... Internets, video gmaes, womenz, and a lot more... However, one day, he was in a bar fight... It was a fierce battle between himself and the being known as Santa Claus. To put it short, he eventually lost and was forced to eat living flesh in order to recover. THEN THAT'S WHEN IT HAPPENED, his teeth sunk into the lovely meat of a radioactive rat... This is when he ASCENDED above all others... This is... The Birth of God. The evolution of some random mexican named Jesus to the Legendary Pokemon we all refer to as GOD.

    Believe it! Dattebayo!

    As for where he came from...? I'll let science decide that.

    I assume you came to this account by experience, as you maintain being the one true god yourself. I feel real sorry for Arcane now. He going to eventually eat a radioactive rat. Another entry in the Old Testament of Vio Milanor.

  24. Posted

    Religion sounds just as implausible. I would say more, really, because your religion pretty much includes that part in addition to the God factor.

    In the beginning, there was God, and there was always God, because God created God or God had just always been God and God made the universe in seven Earth days, which hadn't even been created yet, and made this infinitely big universe for an infinitesimally small amount of life forms, and then put two people with human emotions into a garden with a big tree and put a "no touch" sign on it, but then he is almighty and omnipotent/omnipresent and somehow didn't know what they were up to and didn't predict that giving people curiosity could lead to such a catastrophic event, then proceeded to unleash death and decay upon a race he inherently loves.

    Ugh I do not want to spark religious debate.

    Not here, at least.

    Sahaqiel

    How about here then?

    "As Man is, God once was." Part of a phrase I have heard throughout my life.

    We will go down, for there is space there, and we will take of these materials, and we will make an earth whereon these may dwell; And we will prove them herewith, to see if they will do all things whatsoever the Lord their God shall command them; And they who keep their first estate shall be added upon; and they who keep not their first estate shall not have glory in the same kingdom with those who keep their first estate; and they who keep their second estate shall have glory added upon their heads for ever and ever (Abraham 3:24-26).

    And in that day Adam blessed God and was filled, and began to prophesy concerning all the families of the earth, saying: Blessed be the name of God, for because of my transgression my eyes are opened, and in this life I shall have joy, and again in the flesh I shall see God. And Eve, his wife, heard all these things and was glad, saying: Were it not for our transgression we never should have had seed, and never should have known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption, and the eternal life which God giveth unto all the obedient (Moses 5:10, 11).

    "If Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen, but he would have remained in the Garden of Eden. And all things which were created must have remained in the same state in which they were after they were created; and they must have remained forever, and had no end" (2 Ne. 2:22; cf. Moses 3:9).

    "Because that Adam fell, we are" (Moses 6:48).

    "All things have been done in the wisdom of him who knoweth all things" (2 Ne. 2:24).

    So, basically, God somehow aquired His Godhood through a process we are in fact experiencing right now on Earth. Some time after assuming said divinity, He organized the pre-mortal spirits together, thus creating our souls. He wanted us to become like Him, as we were completely innocent and unable to grow in Heaven, so He devised a plan. This plan was to create a Earth where we could go down and take on bodies to experience suffering and pain and death and all that other good stuff. This would be a test to see if we would follow all of His commandents and become worthy of exaltation. So He created the Earth and placed Adam and eventually Eve there to begin the traffic of spirits down from Heaven and into mortality. But they were still innocent and immortal, incapable of having children (you can't very well allow immortals to reproduce, or they would flood the entire planet and choke it with over population that would consume all the Earth's resources). But this wasn't a problem- the Lord was prepared. He had also planted in the Garden a tree which had fruit that could give them knowledge of good and evil, but told them not to eat it, or they would be stripped of their immortality and innocence. Then Satan shows up to tempt them into eating it anyway (because he can't very well get the party started and intice people into Hell if they never die or are never born). So, all according to plan, Adam and Eve both eat the fruit, fall, and thus usher in the human race to begin their journey in mortality and eventualy grow to become more like the Heavenly Father.

    Death and decay= good

    The fall of humanity= as was intended

    At least that is how I understand the matter.