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[emsomniac 239]

I thought Frieza was a woman and would probably still think that if I watched it again today, looking back. That dude had a proper middle-aged smoker woman's voice. Frieza just totally makes me think of older bitter women from period dramas set in the 1800s who are cruel and very 'proper', and hold contempt for people without perfect manners. That is the real world equivalent of Frieza.

 

Wait, Frieza was a guy?

 

what the puppy

[LLmao ?✊? 1276]

Quit oppressing friezes with your hetero-normative gender biases

[Teto 2609]

So I thought about making a thread for this, but then I didn't, but I might still? Anyways, What are your guys's favorite (fictional?) speeches, or dialogues? I ask because my next illustration assignment in one of my classes is to make a 3-5 page comic, and I want to do something with a more "serious" tone. Which is not to say serious per se, but my teacher is big into the alternative comics scene and I think is expecting us to be really outwardly goofy and nonsensical about whatever we make. Think something you might see in a Cartoon Network show nowadays. I want to stray away from that.

So I'm looking for good dialogues or speeches to adapt. I thought about using scenes/lines from One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, but I already did something with that book in a previous semester, and I don't really read often enough to have a big enough selection of literature to choose from. And I can't think of anything particularly good to use in Hyperion.

I checked some other movies like Pulp Fiction and Inglorious Basterds because QT is pretty good at "quotable dialogue," for lack of a better word, but the stuff in there is kind of hard to work with. I'm also currently looking at this scene from the green mile:

 

I also considered maybe doing the lyrics from sons of fate by The Protomen? But really I don't have much to work with.

If I can't find any particularly inspiring material then I'll just do something original but if anyone knows of any favorite moments in one movie or another I'd love to hear them.

 

It's like you didn't even look at that video I posted on the same page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQpz-mZgz4Y

 

I'm gonna be the best/ Hard work will distinguish me from the rest/ Put everybody else aside and give me the spotlight/ Just wait until I take flight/ And soar along the eagle/ Not with the pigeons.

 

I'll be known as the world's greatest musician with the most exquisite lyricism/ I've heard a lot of rappers and I'll have a flow better than all of them/ Leaving my competition motionless like a mannequin/ Not sure whether to be happy for me or jealous/ And being my fortune and fame regardless/ I'm gonna mould my own destiny/ Hard work, perseverance and dedication is the correct recipe.

 

I always speak about my destiny with honesty/ Thinking realistically/ I pass by the competition at such high velocity/ There's no stopping me/ I'm hotter than wasabi/ If you step to me you'll get burned immediately.

 

 

But for real I'll see if I can think of anything.

 

You could do "What's He Building?" by Tom Waits if all else fails, though maybe it wouldn't work for what you're trying to do. I'm sure there are some Tom Waits songs you can get some good content out of though. Like from "Take It With Me", 'In a land there's a town/ And in that town there's/ A house/ And in that house/ There's a woman/ And in that woman/ There's a hart I love/ I'm gonna take it/ With me when I go/ I'm gonna take it/ With me when I go' But then that's not really relevant to you personally so much, nor something you can really sympathise with? So more empowering/inspiring lyrics might suit better than just straight-up nice ones.

 

I feel like I should be able to think of some. I'll see.

[fire_flamesX 39]

make a comic for yourself, not your teacher

[Teto 2609]

Make a porn mag of yourself

Or something equal portions serious, parody, and silly.

Like some sort of serious lesson about life, but told using a story within a world with an evil beaver overlord.

[Treemotan 201]

So today was interesting at work. Mix of good and bad. We're starting a Veteran's Day sale that goes through Monday, so the store was ridiculously busy. On the downside, this means tons of fitting room stuff and cleaning up the store until like 3:00 AM if you're working closing shift. Oh, and some jerk hid this ridiculously overflown fitting room cart in the stockroom. Like, so overflown with articles of clothing that it was nearly impossible to move.

 

On the bright side, for whatever reason the M.O.D.s decided today was pajama day, so we all got to wear PJs to work if we wanted. Originally, me and a few coworkers (who I will refer to as E, I, J, and M) were going to be smartarses and like dress up really nice today (as in, suits and nice dresses). But then we found some Hello Kitty PJs with little cat-ears hoods and we were like, "Screw it. We're getting these."

 

Mind you, J and M are male. 

 

So, despite the fact that I was mainly working on zoning and therefore running my butt off putting crap away (and got it all done, whoo-ha!), I did so whilst extremely comfortable and with three other people in matching hooded Hello Kitty PJs bopping about, providing infinite amusement to the managers. We managed to make like the crankiest one bust a gut.

[pheonix561 2080]

make a comic for yourself, not your teacher

Yeah, thats the idea. It sucks because so often I'll be listening to a song or something that will put a story in my head, you know? Something with a blatant story and images floating around, and I'll love it, but right now I can't seem to find anything that fits. "Home I'll Never Be" by Tom Waits is really good for that, but I don't know if I could make it fit. As if that song weren't sad enough already, it actually has one of the absolute saddest backstories I've ever heard to any production in my entire life.

[Teto 2609]

Or you could do some Janelle Monae lyrics, considering all her albums so far have been a continuous story of Cindi Mayweather,an android who fell in love with a human, and so sentenced to death, and spends the whole three albums running from the law under different circumstances. The main part I can tell is that by album 3 which released this year she's The Electric Lady (album namesake), a beloved voice in android empowerment in Metropolis, and she's being protected by the community, since she's pretty much their source of inspiration, and a symbol of fighting against the oppressive laws set in place by humans.

 

Not a rock opera format like with The Protomen though. Just an alter ego thing, with all the songs being about real normal things, but it's as if Cindi has written them from her own feelings about the situation she's in. But not so relevant in the details that you notice it's part of a larger narrative.

 

Dunno how much you'd get from that one either, but yeah.

[pheonix561 2080]

Yeah I think I might actually just do some original work. Thanks for the ideas though, I really should pick up more of Janelle's albums than just the archandroid.

[Teto 2609]

Yeah, thats the idea. It sucks because so often I'll be listening to a song or something that will put a story in my head, you know? Something with a blatant story and images floating around, and I'll love it, but right now I can't seem to find anything that fits. "Home I'll Never Be" by Tom Waits is really good for that, but I don't know if I could make it fit. As if that song weren't sad enough already, it actually has one of the absolute saddest backstories I've ever heard to any production in my entire life.

 

Electro-Shock Blues by Eels is a pretty miserable album. I'm not so sure about how the album is built to reflect the backstory, but he wrote it after his sister killed herself, institutionalised for her schizophrenia, and his mother was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer. His father (founder of the multiple-worlds interpretation (aka timelines (thank him for Steins;Gate))) died when he was 19 years old, and it was him who found the body. So frontman's life is a bit rough, and he released this album after he was quite quickly, over the course of a couple years, made the last surviving member of his family. Somehow despite making sad music, he still has a pretty optimistic outlook on life himself.

 

Album title is a reference to electroshock treatment.

 

From what I read and can tell, a lot of the album is adapted from things his sister wrote while institutionalised, and stuff he wrote himself I guess.

The first track is definitely from something his sister Elizabeth wrote at least.

 

 

I see you'e going to be original though and that's cool. Eels is a good band anyway.

Yeah I think I might actually just do some original work. Thanks for the ideas though, I really should pick up more of Janelle's albums than just the archandroid.

 

From an album stream, here's a part where the backstory for the album is made pretty clear

 

http://youtu.be/ivJ0NozfqDY?t=16m20s

 

Power up, power up.

[pheonix561 2080]

Alright, maybe "Home I'll never be" didn't end with Tom being the last surviving member of his family, but it's still got a sad backstory that I'm going to talk about now. There's actually two different recordings of this song, here's the first and second, recorded in rock and folkybluesywhatevery, respectively. The second one is the really sad one:

These songs are both on His B-sides collection released in 2005, both are different adaptions of a Jack Kerouac poem. Jack Kerouac was a famous beat poet of the 50's. I don't know much about his work to be honest, but my roommate steve being the slam poet that he is is a huge fan. Tom Waits was, too.

- Tom Waits (2006): "One is a ballad and one is a blues. What happened, I made the song first with Primus, the rocker version, Home I'll Never Be. And then Hal Wiliner asked me to come down and play for an Allen Ginsberg memorial. There were a lot of people there talking about him. I didn't have a band. So I said, well, this is an actual song written by Jack Kerouac - an a capella song they found on one of the tapes. [sings] "I left New York, 1949. To go across the country without a damn blame dime! Montana in the cold, cold fall! found my father in a gambling hall..." Kerouac sang it alone on a microphone - it's on a collection of his work - and it's beautiful, very touching. So I tried to do my version like that. I ended up liking it. Somebody had the tape from that night, so we stuck it on there."

- Tom Waits (2006): "Kerouac's nephew had this song of Jack's, or at least some of his words he wanted me to record. I guess Jack was at a party somewhere and snuck off into a closet and started singing into a reel-to-reel tape deck, like, 'I left New York in 1949, drove across the country....' I wound up turning it into a song, and I performed it at a memorial for Allen Ginsberg... "I found Kerouac and Ginsberg when I was a teenager, and it saved me. Growing up without a dad, I was always looking for a father figure, and those guys sorta became my father figures. Reading On The Road added some interesting mythology to the ordinary and sent me off on the road myself with an investigative curiosity about the minutiae of life." (Source: "Tom Waits: Haunted songster's revelatory dispatch from the Twilight Zone", Now Magazine (Canada). Vol. 26, no. 11. November 16 - 22, 2006. By Tim Perlich)

I think about that whenever I hear this song. Tom Waits didn't have a father figure in his life growing up, which I imagine is frustrating enough already. So he looks for people to look to, and he finds beat poetry. Kerouac and Ginsberg and those guys. And then over the course of his life he becomes the famous musician Tom Waits we all know and love, inspired by these poets as his heroes. So Ginsberg dies in 1997, and Tom is asked to play one of Jack Kerouac's songs at a memorial for him. I think that must have been pretty heavy on him. Being so revered by people to the point that one day you're asked to play at the funeral of your personal hero a song written by your other personal hero. It's rough to think about. I think that's why the second recording of just him playing at the piano is so much sadder and more raw.

[PrimaGaga 1025]

Who the puppy is Tom Waits?

[Chase 390]

So I thought about making a thread for this, but then I didn't, but I might still? Anyways, What are your guys's favorite (fictional?) speeches, or dialogues? I ask because my next illustration assignment in one of my classes is to make a 3-5 page comic, and I want to do something with a more "serious" tone. Which is not to say serious per se, but my teacher is big into the alternative comics scene and I think is expecting us to be really outwardly goofy and nonsensical about whatever we make. Think something you might see in a Cartoon Network show nowadays. I want to stray away from that.

So I'm looking for good dialogues or speeches to adapt. I thought about using scenes/lines from One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, but I already did something with that book in a previous semester, and I don't really read often enough to have a big enough selection of literature to choose from. And I can't think of anything particularly good to use in Hyperion.

I checked some other movies like Pulp Fiction and Inglorious Basterds because QT is pretty good at "quotable dialogue," for lack of a better word, but the stuff in there is kind of hard to work with. I'm also currently looking at this scene from the green mile:

I also considered maybe doing the lyrics from sons of fate by The Protomen? But really I don't have much to work with.

If I can't find any particularly inspiring material then I'll just do something original but if anyone knows of any favorite moments in one movie or another I'd love to hear them.

 

this is still my favorite speech ever.

[pheonix561 2080]

Yeah I definitely considered that one too. It also has a really good TF2 adaption.

I only consider doing a speech if it has been properly adapted in TF2.

[Teto 2609]

Another album for list of miserable concept albums is Hospice by The Antlers. I hadn't listened to it in a long while until just now, and I forgot how good it was. I know it well enough to totally follow the story now, or at least I think I do. Pretty sure it's a guy who gets too involved with a cancer patient and falls in love with them, marries and moves in with them, things are bad while guy tries to make her happy and relieve her of her pain, gets her pregnant, they get an abortion, she's even worse, and everybody hates him for what he's done, she dies, he lies around feeling depressed for a while until he starts to forgive himself, and start believing that he really wasn't wrong. Or something like that.

 

 

With the door closed, shades drawn, the world shrinks

Let's open up those blinds

But someone has to sweep the floor

Pick up her dirty clothes

That job's not mine

Now that everyone's an enemy, my heart sinks

Let's put away those claws

I don't blame them for their curtains-calls

Because I pulled the rope

I want to call them back out for applause

 

Spring and Thompson on the first of May is horrible

We hid in catacombs

So now I'm sleeping next to mousetraps

In a bed of all our clothes

While I hope that she won't come home

It was easier to lock the doors and kill the phones

Than to show my skin

Because the hardest thing

Is never to repent for someone else

It's letting people in

 

Well you can come inside

Unlock the door, take off your shoes

But this might take all night

To explain to you I would have walked out those sliding doors

But the timing never seemed right

When your helicopter came and tried to lift me out

I put its rope around my neck

And after that you didn't bother with the airlift or the rescue

You knew just what to expect

 

That with the door closed, shades drawn

We're dead enough

They don't open from outside

And someone has to speak with their teeth behind their tongue

To never let that right be denied

We can't rely on photographs and visitation time

But I just don't know where to begin

I want to bust down the door

If you're willing to forgive

I've go the keys, I'm letting people in

 

Don't be scared to speak

Don't speak with someone's tooth

Don't bargain when you're weak

Don't take that sharp abuse

Some patients can't be saved

But that burden's not on you

 

Don't ever let anyone tell you you deserve that

 

I thought this song was good, but now I go back and see the story in full, it's suddenly a lot better than it was.

Also, abortion song. By it self it's pretty easy to pick apart without having the whole album's story.

 

 

There's a bear inside your stomach

The cub's been kicking you for weeks

And if this isn't all a dream

Well then we'll cut him from beneath

Well we're not scared of making caves

Or finding food for him to eat

We're terrified of one another

And terrified of what that means

But we'll make only quick decisions

And you'll just keep my in the waiting room

And all the while I'll know we're puppyed

And not getting unpuppyed soon

When we get home we're bigger strangers than we've ever been before

You sit in front of snowy television, suitcase on the floor